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Due to the number of questions I’ve received I feel the need to do a step by step guide on how I set up and use the MT-24EX. But before I dive in there are a few things that you need to understand…

I’ve spent a lot of time experimenting with the MT-24EX and looking for a way to get the light I want from a flash that, out of the box, is really harsh. I started by learning how a flash works from reading the HiViz web site and reading the tutorials at Strobist like Aperant Light Size. There is a huge difference between getting good results with a flash and understanding how you’re getting the light that you’re seeing in your images. If you’re not willing to invest a little time to read those two sites then, IMHO, you should stop reading this tutorial now. Odds are I’m going to confuse you in the long run because you’re not going to understand what you’re doing –and you’re not going to understand why the things that I do work…

The last disclaimer before we get into the nuts and bolts of things: I am not now, now will I ever be, the last word on any photographic discipline. There are a lot of ways to get from point A to point B and I’m only giving you one of them –my way. Take what you read here and elsewhere and experiment. Make your photography look like it’s coming from you and not me –otherwise you will always be walking in my shadow…

Let’s get started by going over what I’ve learned about ratio control on the MT-24EX. With ratio control you can vary the power of the flash heads to create deeper shadows, but it has some limitations...

With E-TTL flash metering the camera will send out a pre-flash that's used to determine the exposure for the scene, and then it sets the power of the flash heads for the main flash burst. With ratio control your telling the flash to take the total amount of light that the camera want's to use for the scene and send more of it out a single flash head. But the total amount of light that the flash produces is the same with or without ratio control, in other words ratio control is not the same as flash exposure compensation (FEC). So with ratio control enabled you run the risk of over exposing part of the scene, and it's been my experience that the E-TTL pre-flash is not affected by ratio control (or if it is it doesn't have any effect on how the camera is metering the scene).

You do not need ratio control to get good shadows, so turn it off. The only time you should have ratio control enabled is if the flash heads are 180 degrees apart on the flash mount and even then if you have the heads angled differently you still don’t need ratio control. If you do feel the need to use ratio control then don’t set it higher than two to one –and keep in mind that I do not use it…

I usually have one flash head at the top of the lens (the key) at the 11 O'clock position and the other flash head is off to the side (the fill) at about the 2 O'clock position (relative to me) on the flash mount that Canon supplies with the MT-24EX. I also use a Kaiser Adjustable Flash Shoe to get the key flash higher, and at a different angle, than the key to cut down on glare. If both flash heads are  mounted directly to the Canon flash mount then the angle between the flash heads, subject, and sensor will be the same -any shiny surface is going to cause problems since both flash heads will be hitting the same spot at the same angle. The Kaiser Adjustable Flash Shoe is not "keyed" to clip into the Canon flash mount, but I cut two groves in mine with a Dremel tool so that it locks in place like the MT-24EX's flash heads.

The angle of the individual flash heads can also make a big difference. I usually keep them both pointed directly at the subject and at the same angle. If I’m getting some glare that I don’t like and I have time to correct it then I’ll angle the flash head that’s causing the problem either toward the lens or toward the subject –it depends on the scene. Also the magnification that I have the MPE-65 set to determines how I have the flash heads angled, and it’s kinda tough to show it in a photo so I’m going to do my best to explain it.

If you own the MT-24EX then you know that the flash heads make a clicking sound when you move them up and down. So as a starting point push the flash heads all the way down so that they are pointing toward the lens. For life size bring both flash heads up one click. For twice life size and higher magnification leave both flash heads all the way down. My method of angling the flash heads at the various magnifications keeps them pointed directly at the subject, and it keeps the flash duration short. In some situations you might what to change the angle to eliminate bad reflections, but the angle that I set the flash heads to works most of the time.

You can also turn the flash heads from side to side, and you might want to depending on how close the subject is to the background. The way that E-TTL metering works is that there is a pre-flash before the main flash fires that the camera's light meter uses to set the exposure for the scene. If very little of that pre-flash makes it back to the camera (it can happen if the background is more than 6" or about 15cm from the subject) then the background will be very dark or black and the subject will be over exposed because the light meter gets fooled into trying to expose the background. But if you turn the flash heads toward the subject, especially the fill light (the one that I position on the side of the lens) then most of the pre-flash will hit the subject and the meter will give you a correct exposure.

Because the light from the MT-24EX is so harsh the trick to getting the quality of light that I want from it has been to get the flash heads pointed right at the subject, get them as close to the subject as possible, and to diffuse them. I tried several different things, but currently I have a some Rolux diffusion material from a Bogen Diffusion Kit hot glued directly onto the flash heads and on top of that I put a Sto-Fen diffuser set over the Rolux. I also wrapped Gaffers tape around the Sto-Fens to keep light from bleeding out the sides and to force more light out of the front of the Sto-Fens. The end result is that people are starting to think that my images are taken in natural light and that tells me that I’m on the right track. My goal when I started experimenting was to get flash photos that didn’t look like flash photos. But keep in mind that I’m still learning, still experimenting, and that you should do the same…

One final note: Getting the flash heads close to the subject gives me a flash duration that is extremely short and enables me to freeze the motion in a scene. The resulting images are razor sharp and have a lot of detail. So if you’re not getting the sharpness that you see in my images you might have your flash too far away from the subject, or your diffuser is better at blocking the light from your flash than it is at diffusing it...
A guide on how I use the Canon MT-24EX macro twin flash.

Updated text on 18 Feb 09.
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CC7D Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2009
Thanks again - I'll let you know how the diffuser build turns out
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dalantech Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks :)
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NENE00 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009
Thanks very much for the answer Dalantech!.I have two sto-fen difussers and two gary fong.My difusser is: I have put a piece brik of milk directly in the crystal of the flash and above i put of sto-fen with white insulating tape in the part that reflect the light.It seems that it gives a very diffuse light,better than with gary-fong.I see too your article with the nikon sw-11.For you,wich is the best way now,of spreading the light in the mt-24ex??.Thanks again and sorry for my english!
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dalantech Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm still using the Puffers -with the SW-11s I was losing three stops of light. With the Puffer diffuser that I use now I only lose one stop.
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CC7D Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2009
Have learned much from your research, much thanks.

Just received my MT-24 today along with the stofen, puffers, lumiquest reflectors and manfrotto diffusion sheets. Can't wait to start the diffusion project for the heads. What I am going to like with this flash combined with my 7D and 100 L IS is the ability to shoot without the hindrance of a tripod and being really mobile.

I have had good success at 1.37:1 with AI Servo auto focus with this lens(new Hybrid IS). I have one 25mm extension tube (Canon) on the 100mm now and want more magnification. Will only consider putting on one other 25 mm tube (Canon only) - What would the approx magnification be? Around 2:1?
Next purchase will definately be the MP-E 65 after I get in a lot of practice with this rig.

I'll stop rambling - Again, love your work and am now hooked on macro photography thanks to You and Brian Valentine.

Thanks,

Chris Clements
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dalantech Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks Chris :)

I don't know how much focal length the IS version of the 100mm loses at minimum focus, but the non IS version was about a 70mm lens and required that much extension to hit 2x.
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NENE00 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009
Thanks very much for the answer Dalantech!.I have two sto-fen difussers and two gary fong.My difusser is: I have put a piece brik of milk directly in the crystal of the flash and above i put of sto-fen with white insulating tape in the part that reflect the light.It seems that it gives a very diffuse light,better than with gary-fong.I see too your article with the nikon sw-11.For you,wich is the best way now,of spreading the light in the mt-24ex??.Thanks again and sorry for my english!
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NENE00 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2009
Thank you very much for your tutorials!One question, use one or two Kaiser Adjustable Flash Shoe,in what head?, is better than hama?.Thanks!!
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dalantech Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks :)

I have two just in case I want to elevate both heads, but most of the time I only use one.

I have no idea about the Hama adjustable shoe, so I ordered a set today. I'll blog about them after I get them in [link]
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troypiggo Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2009
G'day John, I've ordered a MT-24EX after all this time. Should arrive in the next few days. Will definitely be implementing your tips :)
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dalantech Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Please let me know if you need any help.
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OneClownShoe Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009
I have no questions...I just enjoy looking through your camera.
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dalantech Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the props 8-)
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ouwdiy Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009
i wonder if i have the MT-24EX,..cause i never get the detail on every shot,..
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dalantech Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
The MT-24EX won't give you more detail -controlling the motion in the scene and keeping the flash duration short will...
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ouwdiy Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009
but i dont know why i cant get a detail shot,is it maybe cause of my tool?i try so hard to get the detail,..but maybe i have to try harder,:)
thanks john,..
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dalantech Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Practice -lots and lots of practice ;)
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ouwdiy Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009
i will john :)
thanks for your support,..
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mdcphoto Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2008
Heck man I am still stuck on trying to build the LordV diffuser for my 430 EX lol...however I have this marked for they day I can finally upgrade to the big boy!
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dalantech Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
8-)
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SupaidaSaru Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2008
Great advice! I definitely agree with everything you've said...

As for the Gary Fong Diffusers... have you permanently glued them on? or... are you using some sort of rubber cement.

and... have you tried the Stofen diffusers? made for the MT24EX?

I'm thinking about making my own diffusers out of Plexi... just as I have made my own Flash bracket.
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dalantech Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
I had the Puffers hot glued directly to my flash heads, but I'm currently back to using the Sto-Fens. I did hot glue a diffuser plastic directly to the MT-24EX flash heads before I put the Sto-Fens on them and then I wrapped black gaffers tape around the outside (the inside of it is white) to get some of the light that was being wasted out the sides to go back out the front of the diffuser, and to make the outside of them black instead of white. Easier to get close to the critters with the outside being black...
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SupaidaSaru Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008
Oh ok....

I have an idea of Further diffusing with Sto-fens that I came up with this morning... with Plastic Fluorescent filters... going to try it today...
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dalantech Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
8-)

Please let me know how it goes.
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SupaidaSaru Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2008
yeah... it didn't actually work as well as I had hoped... I found out.. that the only way it will diffuse better is to make the diffusion filter Larger than the flash's face and also bounce flash produce better diffusion.

have you tested the Sto-Fens? comparing with and without??



I did some tests...

with no reflective material near...
3 shots Without diffusion, 3 shots With Sto-fen, 3 shots With Sto-fen fluorescent filtration imbedded.

none showed any drastic difference...

with a white matte board for reflect...
Flash faces subject.

the same... 3 shots without, 3 Sto-fen,
3 Sto-fen + Mod

Stofen was more diffuse...
and Sto-fen-Mod was slightly more diffuse.

I'll be trying more variations later...
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dalantech Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
I get some very diffused light with the Sto-Fen setup that I use now. Remember that blocking the light is not the same as diffusing it so your florescent filtration might be causing your flash duration to be very high and that can increase glare and blow out specular highlights...
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SupaidaSaru Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2008
the fluorescent filter plastic is just like the super Wide angle Flap thats on the 430EX, 540EZ, and 580EZ... its called "Lucite" acrylic. can be purchased at a hardware store... they just gave me a small example to use, which was more than enough. it didn't change much, the softer side absorbs the light pretty well,

the Lucite does not seem cause the flash to need more power... (using in Manual mode, the same power fraction and aperture yielded little difference in the exposure.

I realized that the Sto-fen Omnibounce don't diffuse at all... unless there is something near for light to be bounced from... I guess thats why its called Omnibounce.

from this yes I did however realize a definition difference between a Diffusing the source and scattering from the source.

diffuse, would be creating light From more than one direction all directed at the subject...

Where as the Omnibounce scatters the light, in hopes that something else is near to reflect the scattered light and creating the effect of diffuse light. which also wastes light. and my "Great Idea" of putting those added filters inside.. only scattered the light more.
so now I'm thinking of a few new designs.
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dalantech Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
Why not wrap gaffers tape around the outside edge of the Sto-Fen? That's what I did... ;)
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